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sexuallyfrustratedfowlandshort:

d-scullys:

peakingoranges:

#martha jones has a doctorate in being better than you

#Fabulous will fall when Martha is asked anything.

 #haters can eat a bag of rattlesnakes

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wingsandtails:

Intentions are not magical.

Intentions are not magical.

Intentions are not magical.

Intentions are not magical.

Intentions are not magical.

Intentions are not magical.

I don’t care if Moffat is the least hateful/sexist/misogynistic/whatever that his family/friends/acquaintances knows and that the quote on Coupling was a misquote that he is fervently trying to distance himself from (which I want to give him the benefit of the doubt on because THE PRESS but I also am wary of doing so because THE PRESS and MOFFAT). 

(I’m sure everyone concerned would be glad if it turned out that he either never thought/said such things, or if he’s changed since then.)

If he is the showrunner of Doctor Who, and the main female characters REGULARLY get screwed over with misogynistic tropes, or inconsistent writing, or neglect to their storylines or inner lives or backgrounds, or in general are satellites/plot devices/emotional-growth-facilitators of the main male characters… 

then he is no different from any run-of-the-mill sexist TV writer out there.

Intentions are not magical.

That means, those who are being oppressed by your actions DON’T AND CAN’T CARE about what good things you MEANT to do for them if what you’re actually doing is contributing to their oppression.

Those who are oppressed don’t have the luxury (read: privilege) to “give Moffat the benefit of the doubt” on this. Whether or not he meant to use (or is aware of that he did use) the same couple of female stereotypes for all the female characters in Doctor Who that he ever created, he still does it. And he still does the same shitty things to them over and over.

Problematic stories are problematic even when you enjoy them and consider them the best episodes of a TV show.

Enjoy them by whatever means. But if you’re trying to “explain” Moffat or “defend” him for doing shitty things, that is a shitty thing to do.

I have a beef with Moffat. I have a different, but just as bloody, beef with RTD. I’m not flaming one to fan the other.

I am a Whovian, and I love Doctor Who (Classic and New). (I enjoy it a lot, but sometimes I have wince through entire episodes and season arcs of offensive crap and concentrate of the small bits of enjoyment.) So when I criticize the shitty things in it, I WANT THEM TO GO AWAY. I want Doctor Who to get better and stop perpetuating shitty things like misogyny or the subtle sexism of erasure or badass women being reduced to their reproductive organs or a plot device or a way for the Doctor to come to terms with himself.

Moffat is bad/lazy/neglectful/whatever-you-want-to-call-it at characterization of Amy, of River, of most of his characters, for the sake of exciting time-travel mindbending, except for the Doctor’s characterization. Except for Rory’s characterization. 

There’s a pattern there. Who believably went from being a mild nurse to Roranicus Pondicus who causes all grovel at the non-dying ever-dying dude? Who believably is confronting his past mistakes and bombast and is deciding to step back into the shadows?

Both of those are male characters.

Amy’s entire character arc is tied to the Doctor, from childhood to squicky pregnancy motherhood of River and marriage to Rory. River’s entire character arc is tied to the Doctor, from conception until death. 

Both of those are female characters.

Moffat may or not be aware of what patterns he engages in, but it makes little difference to those who have to deal with the crap those patterns perpetuate.

So when I say that Moffat is a sexist writer, I’m not necessarily saying that OMG HE HATES WOMENZ but that he does not write female characters with character arcs that aren’t tied to a male’s actualization. He does not check his many privileges as a white, heterosexual, cis male, 

BECAUSE IF HE DID

HE WOULD WRITE DIFFERENTLY.

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yukidama:

melikaid:

#lmao when people say ten was nice and fair and respectful towards martha and SHE was the one with the problem #l #m #a #o

I

FUCKING

HATE

TEN

I D G A S F

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aeraspais:

!!!  I AM NEVER SURE WHAT YOU WANT, FANDOM.  I mean, it is great everyone can often find common ground when it comes to a program that has almost fifty years of history—because arguments and different interpretations are bound to happen!—but sometimes it gets kind of clichéd, discouraging, and exhausting when it comes at the expense of a character that have done nothing to inspire such levels of hate.  Martha Jones only asked wished for one thing while she was travelling with the Doctor: respect and, when it made clear she would never receive that wish, she got out.  Yes, she did harbor a crush for Ten—given the way they met [Judoon on the Moon!, unexpected kisses, his face and sort], can you even blame her?—but Martha never once expected him to return her feelings and, throughout series three, she only referenced them to company when the Doctor was out of earshot.
You cannot hold that against her.  Logically it just does not work out, because she was being respectful during her stay on the TARDIS.  It was Ten who kept disregarding her feelings.  It was Ten who was dragging her place to place for seven episodes before giving her a key to the TARDIS.  It was Ten who was ready to sacrifice himself with a disregard for Martha’s safety and ability to get home.  It was Ten who pushed the idea she would never and could never measure up to a woman she had never met while she kept pushing and pulling through to save his life countless of times.
How could you even come out of series three hating Martha once you realize all the trouble she went through?  Was it because Martha wasn’t Rose?  (Probably.  RTD certainly did not help matters!)  Was it because Martha was black.  (Fandom, we need to have discussions about your internalized racism, tbh!)  Was it a combination of the two or possibly a third and four bullshit excuse?  Because, to me, it does not make sense.  And, whoa, it needs to stop.

aeraspais:

!!!  I AM NEVER SURE WHAT YOU WANT, FANDOM.  I mean, it is great everyone can often find common ground when it comes to a program that has almost fifty years of history—because arguments and different interpretations are bound to happen!—but sometimes it gets kind of clichéd, discouraging, and exhausting when it comes at the expense of a character that have done nothing to inspire such levels of hate.  Martha Jones only asked wished for one thing while she was travelling with the Doctor: respect and, when it made clear she would never receive that wish, she got out.  Yes, she did harbor a crush for Ten—given the way they met [Judoon on the Moon!, unexpected kisses, his face and sort], can you even blame her?—but Martha never once expected him to return her feelings and, throughout series three, she only referenced them to company when the Doctor was out of earshot.

You cannot hold that against her.  Logically it just does not work out, because she was being respectful during her stay on the TARDIS.  It was Ten who kept disregarding her feelings.  It was Ten who was dragging her place to place for seven episodes before giving her a key to the TARDIS.  It was Ten who was ready to sacrifice himself with a disregard for Martha’s safety and ability to get home.  It was Ten who pushed the idea she would never and could never measure up to a woman she had never met while she kept pushing and pulling through to save his life countless of times.

How could you even come out of series three hating Martha once you realize all the trouble she went through?  Was it because Martha wasn’t Rose?  (Probably.  RTD certainly did not help matters!)  Was it because Martha was black.  (Fandom, we need to have discussions about your internalized racism, tbh!)  Was it a combination of the two or possibly a third and four bullshit excuse?  Because, to me, it does not make sense.  And, whoa, it needs to stop.

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lol ok i hit ‘reply privately’ to that ask but: DOCTOR WHO


boringoldstuff asked: the ninth doctor


Doctor: Love what you’ve done with the pyramids. How did you swing all this?
River: Hallucinogenic lipstick. Works wonders on President Kennedy. And Cleopatra was a really pushover.
Doctor: I always thought so.

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more on ‘attractiveness’ in television and dw

(aka matti ranting via aim and editing it into a thing)

anyway there has not been a single time that people have not gone into attack mode

ever

when i’ve made the point that you can’t say that ‘looks don’t matter’ when you’re pairing women who have been artificially selected through their entire education, exposure, and career in acting for their beauty (re: social standards of it etc) because it’s a requirement as evidenced by the fact that practically every actress is beautiful according to society’s standards with men who have never experienced anything remotely like that bias

dudes who have acting chops, perhaps, because they have acting chops

but are not and were not selected based on their physical attractiveness at every step

(but actually were usually picked to play the role of an ‘everyday dude’, which is a distinctly different trope than the ‘girl next door’ because it doesn’t have the requirement of virginal femininity, i.e. sexual attractiveness without sexual activity, attached. in fact it’s meant to be a character that any guy can relate to — nice, but ordinary. attractiveness does not in any way play a role in the castings of these actors in the same way it often doesn’t play a role in their acting careers. arguing that you find arthur darvill or noel clarke or whoever attractive does not matter because the fact remains that they are not the product of a systematic societal pressure to only present the far extreme of what society views as a “beautiful woman” as normal, as everyday, as natural. if you find one of them attractive that’s great for you; but he has not been systematically selected for success because of his conformity to a highly specific standard of societal beauty and whether or not you find him, as an individual, attractive is beside the point.)

i mean doctor who said it itself, with amy talking about how rory’s face “became him” and how seeing his personality in him was more important

and that’s a sweet sentiment, but it’s coming from an actress who is super gorgeous and is largely a successful actress because of being gorgeous and the fact that she is in a position to be voicing that sweet sentiment almost exclusively because of her physical appearance when that’s the thing she’s saying doesn’t matter basically nullifies anything they’re trying to say.

like, they didn’t pull her at random off a street ok

also, saying that what i think is beautiful is subjective doesn’t apply.

if you don’t think that society favors a specific type of beauty in pop culture and in television — you know, the specific type of beauty that appears consistently in almost all of pop culture and television, except when it’s being blatantly and loudly subverted — then i do not know what to say to you.

basically: ignoring the problematics of treating women selected specifically for their beauty as completely normal and ordinary and not specifically societally beautiful is really gross when you’re spending all your time talking about how every individual is precious and beauty doesn’t matter because personality is all that counts.

(i had a lot of I H8 EVERYONE here but it was omitted for your reading pleasure)


rhaegar frey~*~: masteradept: rhaegarfrey: maybe i’ll just write fix-it fic for martha...

masteradept:

masteradept:

rhaegarfrey:

maybe i’ll just write fix-it fic for martha jones

in which her characterization isn’t terrible and she’s brilliant and doesn’t need the doctor and doesn’t get kidnapped/trapped/etc constantly despite being arguably the most competent of all the companions, ever

I see some Mickey hate in your comment. What is everyday or lumpish about Mickey? Oh thats right he helped to save the Universe more than once, he stayed in the other dimension not only to watch out for his Grandmother but to fight the Cybermen, he turned down Nine’s invite at first because he knew it was not for him at the time (which says a whole hell of a lot for his character),  Oh and thats right he helped save the Universe. I would say that Martha & Mickey had a mutual respect of being the ones who were ignored by people who they had feelings for, add in that they could actually talk to one another about their adventures..kindred spirits and a bond that most people who knew nothing of The Doctor and time traveling would not even be able to comprehend.

lol i am not pretending to like mickey here? i think he’s a fine person, but i just think most arguments to his ~badassery are tentative and incidental. he stayed with his grandmother in a parallel universe because she mattered more to him than anything else ever could; seizing a reprieve from grief when it’s offered to you is not a selfless act and doesn’t make him a ~~~hero. and i don’t recall any direct action on his part to do much of anything toward saving the world; i think he, like, hit a button on a remote at some point? which, tbh, does not compare to taking the tardis into your body, becoming part time-lord, walking the earth for a year where every second carries the risk of death, making the choice to euthanize the planet rather than let it be slowly tortured, etc. (not that all of those were active choices, but still — it hardly compares.)

his personality is basically demonstrated to be an overall decent guy — one who is primarily passive until he gets militarized (which is, uh, a slightly horrifying development, in my opinion), unassuming about his life goals, occasionally jealous, and goofy. even after he serves in a paramilitary organization or whatever, these don’t appear to change that much — he’s perhaps more mature and harder because of his service in a paramilitary organization, or whatever that was, but these still aren’t exactly one-in-a-million soulmate qualities. 

martha is a doctor who leaves medicine to become part of two different paramilitary organizations, eventually rising to the point that she is one of the few individuals in the entire world trusted with the fate of humanity. she is the only companion who left the doctor because she didn’t need time or space or any of it to overpower the world with sheer competence and willpower.

fundamentally, i just don’t think that the fact that he’s a good guy means he somehow ‘should’ be with her. the assumption that she would settle down with this guy, who isn’t her intellectual equal, who isn’t her physical equal*, who isn’t her equal in terms of sheer competence or force of will or ability, simply because they both know what it is to be rejected is doing a grave disservice to martha’s character. and it’s a disservice that is done so often to female characters, particularly on this show but on so many others, and which i find absolutely intolerable. besides that, it’s predicating her entire character on the fact that she loved the doctor, when in reality the exact opposite is the case: she loved the doctor, and then she left to live her life because she didn’t need him. arguing that her rejection by the doctor somehow uniquely shapes her psyche and love life for the remainder of her life and actions is demeaning, because it’s the antithesis of who she is: the one who left to live her life, on her own terms, without the doctor.

* not actually related to anything you’ve said, but in general: you actually cannot argue with this point. i don’t care whether anyone happens to find noel clarke highly attractive; the entire success of his career is not contingent on his attractiveness, as it is for the vast majority of television actresses, as you can see by the fact that the overwhelming majority are tremendously attractive. if it were not the case that beauty was a requirement, then it wouldn’t be the case that stunningly attractive women are presented as the norm in just about every television show ever to air. the reaction to exceptions like ‘ugly betty’ (whose star, it should be mentioned, is not actually ugly) really just proves this point. claiming that ‘looks don’t matter’ is insincere and insulting.


masteradept:

rhaegarfrey:

maybe i’ll just write fix-it fic for martha jones

in which her characterization isn’t terrible and she’s brilliant and doesn’t need the doctor and doesn’t get kidnapped/trapped/etc constantly despite being arguably the most competent of all the companions, ever

and never pairs up with stupid mickey


Actually her pairing with Mickey was good. If you think about how Mickey had changed from S1-S4, he would have made an excellent partner for Martha. He is not one of those men who would not try to mute his partner’s glory, nor hate on their excelling beyond his. In other words he would never try to put Martha in the corner and that is the kind of partner Martha deserves.

yeah so martha deserves someone who wouldn’t be an abusive smothering asshole

doesn’t mean it has to be that weirdo with no particular personality to whom she has no logical or personal connection whatsoever because he’s narratively convenient

(god forbid she actually find personal fulfillment without having to rely on some dude for it! i mean it’s not like her entire arc was about how she went and found personal fulfillment, on her own, by herself, without needing the doctor)

besides, this show has a major thing about pairing up glorious, gorgeous, kickass women with bumbling, average-looking, everyman beige dudes


did anyone even like mickey

i just remember being afraid of his oscar the grouch face

and how he contributed nothing to the plot except as a weak foil for the female lead and mostly being ignored

does that sound like anyone we know


maybe i’ll just write fix-it fic for martha jones

in which her characterization isn’t terrible and she’s brilliant and doesn’t need the doctor and doesn’t get kidnapped/trapped/etc constantly despite being arguably the most competent of all the companions, ever

and never pairs up with stupid mickey



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